Turkey - Val says be reasonable, not European

Valery Giscard d'Estaing has spelt it out for the Turks and it's a big fat NO - as in not now and not ever for EU membership. There is, he says, a softer option that should be applied to Ukraine and Morroco as well (but strangely not Bosnia). This would be economic only - like NAFTA. Is he revealing the real intentions of the Council of Ministers ? - who decide in December on whether to start membership talks for real more from Zaman...